Takayuki Kiryu / Trumpet, Italy Philharmonic Orchestra / Piacenza, Italy

The "Listen to Musicians" section is a section where professionals who usually play music on the stage go down the stage and speak in words.This time, we will interview the guest, Takayuki Kiryu, a classical trumpet player who is active in Italy and Switzerland. I would like to hear from you on the theme of "How to play an active role as a classic trumpet player in Italy?" (Interview: August 2005).

Takayuki Kiryu
Graduated from Toho Gakuen University Trumpet Department. Graduated from G. Nicolini National Conservatory.Graduated from Zurich National Conservatory of Music.Appeared as an extra in domestic orchestras while attending Toho Gakuen University.5th Casalza Ligure International Competition Wind Instrument Category and Solo Category 1st overall, 10th Riviera della Versilia Domestic Competition 2nd place.While attending the Italian Conservatory, he began playing with the Italian Philharmonic Orchestra in Piacenza.Currently performing in orchestras such as the Milan Giuseppe Verdi Symphony Orchestra, the Palma City Opera Orchestra, and the Zurich Symphony Orchestra, he is also active in solos and ensembles in Europe, mainly in Italy and Switzerland.Since this fall (2005), he has been a member of the Golliwogg Brass Quintetto, a brass quintet representing northern Italy.Currently the most promising classical trumpet player.


My house is a musician's family, my mother was a pianist and my father was also a trumpet player, so in my case my mother wanted to play the trumpet.From a young age, I naturally thought that I would become a musician in the surrounding environment.That's why I didn't do it very desperately, but I didn't even say that I was a genius boy in genius education, but I grew up thinking that I would become a musician somehow from a young age.I don't remember trying the trumpet in my hand at the very beginning.When I noticed, the instrument was rolling at home, and when I noticed it, I felt like I was playing it.That's why I don't remember how difficult it is to blow at first.

My dad was a classical trumpet player, so I personally like jazz, but I've never been interested in it or as a professional.I started playing the piano when I was little, but it felt like I was doing it because I had to play the piano in order to enter the music college.I didn't do it very seriously (laughs).

At first I entered Toho Gakuen, a Japanese music high school, and graduated from university.After that, sensei of the university was studying in Germany, so I went to Germany with the intention of studying abroad under the influence of it.But I didn't have a connection, so when a person I was interested in came to Japan, I would like to rush to the dressing room and study for you. I was told to send it.So, I kept in touch after sending the performance tape, but I took the entrance examination at Karlsruhe in Germany, but I didn't take it (laughs).

Now, I think that Karlsruhe in Germany is probably the most difficult to enter in Germany, when it comes to the trumpet class.It's really the most famous school in Germany and I didn't realize it was that difficult at the time, but well, I went with the idea that I liked it.I wanted to study with that person.After that, I came back to Japan, but I had a fight with my parents and I decided to leave the house.Since I was in college, I had a freelance job as an extra for a Japanese professional orchestra and other jobs, so I continued to live alone.However, for me, studying abroad is necessary for me, and I had a fight with my parents, but both my parents and I had the same opinion on that point, so after about a year and a half, my parents said, "It's about time. If you want to study abroad, let's have another chance. "So I decided to find a place where I could study again.

In my case, there was a fundamental problem in playing the trumpet, and that couldn't be solved in Japan.There was a problem with making sound.In Japan, I managed to get the job done the way I studied, but that way I hadn't grown for years and there was a limit.There are many ways to play the trumpet.Simply put, it will grow if you blow it correctly, but there is something wrong with it.You have to start over to fix it.It's difficult to do while working.You can't afford to make mistakes at work, so it's inevitably safer to play the way you've done it, even if you have limits.You only have to play to some extent to get the job done, but if you want to improve your musicality, you need more than that, so you hit that wall.

I agree.I couldn't make the condition of trying a good playing style while working in Japan.One reason was that my mother was studying abroad as a musician, so coming to Europe would be an indispensable part of studying as a musician.

At that time, I hadn't decided properly yet, so I went on a trip to find sensei.On my trip, I visited some people and got in touch with sensei, a music college in Trossingen, Germany, and decided that I could come there in the summer.After that, there was a big life-changing event, and the music school that my mother taught had an exchange with a music school in the town of Piacenza, Italy.When my mother came to the principal of the music school, sensei, I had the opportunity to have a dinner, and one day my mother suddenly said, "I know the principal sensei at the Italian Conservatorio (Conservatory), but Italy is How is it? Why don't you go? "At that point, my mother is the sponsor of study abroad.At this point, I said, "No, but I don't know about Italy, and it's okay," and I was wondering if this story would be a nuisance if I was in a bad mood.So I said, "Yeah, I understand. Let's go for the time being" (laughs).Isn't that the case (laughs)?Children make projects with their children, but only then parents bring in completely different projects.I think there are many in everyday life.So I decided to go to Italy before going to Germany.I think this is a very strange case, but is there a good sensei at the Conservatory by contacting the principal, sensei?When I heard that, one person introduced me to sensei.When I contacted that sensei, that sensei had his own brass ensemble (trumpet, trombone, horn and tuba), planned a concert by himself, and was very active. You were the one who was there.So, because I'm coming in what month, I have a performance tour in Belgium on what day and day in August, what day in September and October, so I'm in a situation where I don't have enough trumpet right now, so I definitely want to go there. I was suddenly told that I wanted you to do it.I sent a profile once, but I was surprised because I hadn't put out a performance tape before.It's just Italy, so I don't know how true it is, but I think it's worth a visit.If it looked so terrible, I didn't have to go to Italy, I just thought I should eat pizza, watch opera, and move again.
 
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Yes.Then, on the contrary, it was very interesting, and at first there was a concert, but after all the time was very free and I had a lot of time to refresh.Italy has nothing in a sense, so I had to make my head white and rebuild it again, or that kind of time was very necessary for me.

I agree.It was good for me for the time being.It's not a bad thing to continue this situation.I didn't really see the future, but the current conditions are so good that it's not a bad thing to continue.During that time, I met a lot of good friends, and I met Italian friends, and they helped me a lot.The person who corresponds to my sensei asked me to take care of me and introduced me to some people who can speak a little English.I've become my closest friend right now.

I didn't know any Japanese people at all, and there was one person who lived in Italy for a long time. I only had some help when making contact, and most of the rest was helped by Italian people.There were few Japanese people in the city of Piacenza, so it was the first time for the Italians around me to help foreigners.

I agree.Moreover, I have been studying abroad in Italy for a long time, but I don't hear about trumpet.

To put it simply, Austria, Germany, France, and the United States.There are various groups and methods, so it depends on what kind of sensei you were in Japan and how you were influenced by it.That's why Italy is very rare.The Italian consultant Rio submitted an application for admission in April and the exam is in June-July-September.Since I came in August, of course I didn't submit an application for admission, and I couldn't, so I had to wait for a year.However, the principal, sensei, gave me permission.The auditor system cannot be an Italian consultant Rio, but at the level of permission of the principal sensei, he gave me permission to participate in classes, lessons, and everything else.Under the condition of enrolling in the next year.just.There was a little happening here.It overlapped with the work of the Udine Philharmonic Orchestra, which I was working on on the day of the entrance examination that I had waited for a year.Udine is more than 4 kilometers away from Piacenza.When I told sensei about it, he said, "I can't help it, I'll do something about it." (Lol)

I agree.However, it was difficult because of the police.I was in Italy on a tourist visa, so I have a good stay of 3 months.So I had an invitation from an Italian for three months to the police, so I decided to declare that I wanted to extend it.To do that, I took the train from Piacenza at 3:4 in the morning, lined up in front of the police gate from 6 to 8:12, and finished lining up again at 3 o'clock, in a situation where I could hardly understand Italian. , I ended up doing it three times (laughs).When I opened the lid, I felt that I didn't have to do it, but I had no choice but to do it considering the possibility of illegal stay at that time.

The number of years attended at an Italian music school varies depending on the subject.The Italian music school is not a music college, but a conservatory, so I have to study 10 years for the piano and 8 years for the violin, but I can skip the class.It's been 5 years for the trumpet.I think the song is 6 years old.But what that means is that some people aren't ready to play an instrument when they enter school.To put it the other way around, I have to graduate after playing the trumpet in 5 years.

There may be problems with the Italian system, but there are some people who grow genius there.

I see.I graduated in three years because I wanted to stay for a long time. (Trumpet course) You graduated from 3 years in 5 years.

Since November 98, I have been working for the current orchestra.In Germany, the system is much stronger than in Italy.I think that there is an orchestra in every city and it will be a place of employment, but if you get a salary and get a job there, you will be able to live.But Italy has almost no such system.I belong to the Piacenza Orchestra, but I don't get a monthly salary.In short, it is a commission system.Of course, I'm a member of the orchestra, so if I have something to do and can't play, I have to go to the secretariat to tell me that I shouldn't do this day.To put it very simply, it's close to freelance, so even students can do it if they have the ability.

The leader, or the greatest person, was a professor of the bassoon department in Piacenza.He's no longer playing in the orchestra, but he's organizing, and one of his concepts is an orchestra that is gathered by people from Piacenza, and the Piacenza consultant Rio. If there is a remarkable person inside, it will definitely give you a chance.I didn't have a chance right away, so I wanted to work in your orchestra, but I asked myself if there was an audition opportunity.He doesn't audition, but he knows you're there, so he was told that if you leave your phone number, you might have the opportunity.It stayed the same for a while, but when I had a chance, he talked to me.

Of course, I don't know what's going on in the world, so I'm always thinking about Japan, but it's difficult to actually return to Japan right now.In fact, I'm currently working in the Piacenza orchestra, but I'm also working in many other orchestras.If it's a famous orchestra, you often get a job from the Milan Giuseppe Verdi Symphony Orchestra.I quit the other day, but it is an orchestra conducted by Riccardo Chailly. In November 97, when I played an opera called Wagner's Lowengry at the Kokeraotoshi of the New National Opera, I returned to the orchestra as an extra for a month, but I couldn't return to Japan. From 11 to now (August 1), the only time I returned was when I had the Verdi Symphony Orchestra Japan Tour in October 97.

I'm not sure, but I don't think I'll take it myself at work or in competition.You say you win the competition, but I don't think you won because you worked hard.It's not your intention, but someone else says you won.Others say that I'll ask you for work.After all, if you're living normally and just practicing at home, it's not a simple problem of getting a call, but I think there is such a part.As a result, I definitely have a job in Italy, so it's definitely better to be in Italy than to go back to books today.

In the case of Italy, it is divided into orchestras with many foreigners and orchestras with only Italians.Some orchestras are organized by foreigners.This is a strange kind, but at one point there was a time when many Russians came to Milan.As these people take root in their hometowns, Russians start to organize concerts and work comes directly to them.When I went to such an orchestra, the best Italian violinists were at the back, and the main people, such as the concertmaster and the top cello, were all Russian, even during practice. Everyone was in Russian (laughs).It feels like where the Italians are here, and there is no choice but to be quiet in that (laughs).
 
Kiryu who is active in Italy
The most important thing is how to play.Whether or not the characters match the work they play is the first thing they (Italian orchestra) come to.The first thing that comes is neither the pitch nor the rhythm.What we are doing is music.That means what kind of music you play.It doesn't start from the point of playing what is written on the score correctly, but from the point of what kind of character's music will be played from now on.

Japan seems to be accurate as written in the score.Accurate means how many metronomes, how many sharps, and if there are sixteenth notes, it will sound exactly as it is.But that's not the case, and I judge from that point what kind of music I have to clog this sixteenth note.

Well, I have a conductor to put it together.But there is also the habit of the orchestra, and Verdi is noisy for everyone.In particular, I think that the place where Verdi was born is close to where I live.I also have a job at Parma, but Parma is really noisy at Verdi.Parma's Verdi is like the Viennese waltz in Vienna.

Basically, there are many differences, but what I think is the most different when working is that the first time of practice for a Japanese orchestra is extremely good.After that, when the conductor says various things, it gets worse and worse (laughs).In short, the best thing you can do is when everyone concentrates and aims for perfection.Does it gradually lose its freshness as it is repeated many times?The performance on the first day is really terrible for Italians. People who didn't work the first time may be just as bad the second time.Sometimes you make a mistake and play the major chords in the mall the first time, and then again in the mall.Instead, it gets better at all when going from the first day to the second day, and everyone takes it to be the best during the production.

I don't think it's conscious.I don't think they are thinking so consciously (laughs).After all, playing music is a very energetic task.It's something that you put out in production, and you probably don't put it out much when you practice.I think it's the difference in consciousness between the stage of playing and the stage of practicing.

I think the most important thing is whether or not what kind of concept you have for music is clear in your mind.What do you need, like baroque when you play baroque, romantic when you play romantic, and modern music when you play modern music?For example, I don't know if Viennese music can be played in a Viennese style to the satisfaction of the Viennese people, but instead of that, I think that Viennese music is such a concept. I think it's important that it's in my head.Takayuki Kiryu Trumpet player

I like opera, so I'm excited when I'm playing with a good singer, especially when the Italian opera is exciting.I have a lot of time not playing the trumpet in the orchestra, so I'm really excited to be in the pit at that time (laughs).I'm listening (laughs).

Being in a pit such as an opera doesn't have much effect.
As a musician, I think this way.Of course I also do orchestras, but there are quite a few times when I do solo and chamber music activities such as trumpet and organ and brass quintet.Performance activities as a musician are music that is done in such places.I think an orchestra is a professional one.It's a job.If you have too much thought about playing in an orchestra, you will often go bankrupt.For example, the conductor's demands may not match his taste, his colleagues may not be able to play well, and so on.If you're feeling sick or something like that, you're going bankrupt.

I agree.I think the orchestra is really the same as the company.It's about having a role and how you can do it properly.I think the most important thing is whether the orchestra feels the same as other people.It doesn't really matter if you play well.It's an overall thing, so I think it's about whether it fits well.If everyone doesn't feel the same, I don't think the orchestra will work.

After all, what I am studying by studying abroad is not an orchestra, but a new style of a new genre, such as improving the musical interpretation of the solo repertoire or expanding my new repertoire. I wanted to do something like that.When I'm solo or in a group, I can have a musical discussion.I don't think an orchestra is a place where you can easily express your opinion because the time is limited and there are many people.It is the conductor's job to put that together.Of course, there are a lot of things to say when putting together a part.

Playing the trumpet, feeling the music, and enjoying the music is one of the things that "lives" in my life. I think it is one part contained in the energy of "living."This is not all, though.

Dreams are difficult, aren't they?I haven't really thought of it as a dream.First of all, there are some projects that you have to do for the last six months or several years.Thinking about that kind of thing leads to thinking about my dreams.Dreams are not something that doesn't move.When you are in a certain place, think about where you can go the farthest in that direction.And I will extend the place that seems to be the most stretchable.That's why it changes on the spot.I think it's important what to do when you go there.I think it would be difficult for me to go there aiming for one place.Dreams fix things, so I think that the idea of ​​fixing things is what I think.

I agree.That's a reality for me when it comes to music activities.I think that being satisfied with myself is the final concept of my dream.The reason for having a dream is that if you can reach the dream, you will be happy and satisfied.I don't think it's a dream, but whether I'm satisfied with the activity.

I don't know if it's overseas, but I think that many musicians are not mature human beings.What I want to say is that musicians are also members of society.Whether it's a musician, a painter, a police officer, or a painter, he's a member of society.Because it is painted, it does not mean that it does not have to be social.I think that being a member of society will lead to work.Of course, musicians aren't really lacking, but I think there are some things that are missing in various small places.The amount of omission is different for each (laughs).It's about playing, but it's completely different from pursuing musical performance.You have to plan a concert.If the agency doesn't always follow you, you don't just have to go there and play.When that happens, I can't help but be able to do other work myself.No one will do it.For example, you have to find and call someone to accompany you.So when it comes to what kind of person is good, I want to call someone who will come properly if I call someone who is a good performer but doesn't know if he will come on that day (laughs).There is a misnomer when I say someone who doesn't come.Well, in reality, I think there are people who don't come, but there aren't many people who don't really come.Even in discussions about work, it is often inconvenient to always be honest about what you think.It doesn't mean that you shouldn't say what you think, but you have to find what you need at that time and say it properly.I don't think I can say here and there to get a job, but when I give myself a job, I can answer that I can do it, and if I ask this person for a job, this I think it is necessary to make the other person think that a person is likely to be able to work.After all, people communicate and talk with each other.I think it is particularly difficult for Europe to be such a member of society.After graduating from school in Italy, you went to study at the Conservatory of Music in Zurich, Switzerland for three years.I still often go to Switzerland for work.At that time, I think that Italy and Switzerland have different social rules.I think it is very important to be able to feel that kind of thing sensitively.

I have seen many people who have studied abroad, but I think studying abroad is very good.However, I want you to remember that you are the one who studies.No matter how good sensei or how bad sensei it is, it's up to me to do it. It's not that sensei do it well, but sensei may give you ideas to improve, but I think it's important to first find out how you can do it.If you don't understand it, you will run idle no matter where you are or what you do.The important thing is that if you find yourself, you will be able to see more and more.Regarding studying abroad, I think that is the case even when I choose not to study abroad.

It's very difficult.I wonder what they are doing in Japan.However, one thing I can say is that I am alive, so if there is an earth, I think it would not be a bad life experience to go to various places on the earth.Of course, there may be people who don't have to have a lot of life experience (laughs), but I think it's easy to go to various places and it's possible to have a lot of different experiences, simply.

August will be a vacation, but from the second half of August the concert will be at the church in Cremona.There is also a brass quintet. In September and October, the operetta will be performed in Switzerland.In the meantime, there are some chamber music concerts.Italy's schedule is late, so it's still early at this stage (Note: the interview was conducted on August 8, 8).Operetta is a Swiss job, so it's fast (laughs).For example, in April I received a phone call (SMS) from a friend. You were asked to tell us if you were free on November 9th, December 10rd and 2005th.Ah, 8 minutes after I thought I had a message, I got another email and was told that I would like to know it right away (laughs).

I agree.I don't really understand the schedule for Italy yet (laughs)